This appears to be a guild gun of German manufacture. These guns were quite inexpensive and not as well finished as more expensive guns. #328269 - 06/14/13 10:25 AM Re: German Stalking Rifle - What is It? Current Bid. If in doubt about the caliber, have a gunsmith check it out. In most cases a qualified gunsmith can bend your stock successfully. It is a single shot, bolt action, stalking rifle. Flobert Rifles, Pistols and Ammunition were named after him and were made in a great variety of light and inexpensive guns for rim fire ammunition from a single BB ball to the 22 Caliber Long Rifle and other 6mm, 7mm and 9mm Cartridges, as well as for small gage shotgun shells. The single shot stalking rifle - or “Kipplauf” - reflects our Alpine-European hunting tradition: The idea of being part of nature, of putting one’s skills and instincts to the test, and to take game with a single precise shot. The desirability of all the others depends on who made the rifle, how well it is made, the grade of the wood and the engraving. A German sniper Photo by … 6. to take apart, this is a real gentleman's hunting rifle. More advanced guns have separate hand cocking levers or cocking slides for the rifle barrel. Arguably, the German engineer and gunmaker’s Model 98 Mauser is the greatest bolt-action rifle ever created. Proof marks must be correctly interpreted. Deposits are considered as a contractual agreement and are non-refundable. 2 9/16 inch long chambers and very tight chokes. For the money it's a scope which is hard to look by. Although good Damascus steel can be as strong as fluid steel, there is no test other than proof testing for knowing the difference. Their Double Rifle Drilling with a shotgun slug in the third barrel is perhaps the most effective gun for use on dangerous charging game. The stalking rifle is a term from Europe and is basically a German Guild rifle, a half round half oct. barrel, slim design with lots of drop stock, and a big old scope that is mounted too high, but works fine on a stalk and a perfectly placed shot on a standing broadside animal, then you get a bloody branch stuck in your hat and back to the lodge and switch into your tux for a formal meal..:) (Three and four barrel guns) We suggest that you read the article about barrel steel and barrel sleeving. The 4-16x44 offers more magnification than you will need, but the slimmer objective sits it nicely on a basic stalking rifle. Such a mount has two bases, each with two rectangular openings and one of them with a spring loaded locking slide. $14,500.00 and up. This takes a lot of time because the barrels must cool off completely between shots. This rifle is based on the pre-war Merkel 180 models. from their 2014 Calender. tusquittee A+(1453) Seller's Other Items. The stalking rifle was born in the Scottish Highlands where, traditionally, red deer are neither sniped at long range nor ambushed from stands. The shotgun chamber length must be measured and light load 2 ½” shells may have to be used. As a rule of thumb with double rifles, ammunition with lighter bullets or higher velocities will generally move the points of impact of the two barrels closer together or even make the barrels ‘cross’; that is, the right barrel might actually print to the left of the left barrel. German Jaeger Rifles . Guns International Advertising Policy GunsInternational.com is the #1 Gun Classified website that brings gun buyers and gun brokers or sellers together through classifed advertising of guns, gun related items and services for sale online. It has been described as: “One of the most popular hunting rifles ever conceived”. A claw mount is only as good as the gunsmith who fits it. Right here in our, There are fewer and fewer gunmakers in Europe that, possess the skill and the knowledge to build, traditional pre-war style break open guns. Zack IP Logged . Barrel Patent Use : No. The over and under combination gun is perhaps the most popular among the various barrel configurations because it is very slim. Weight is about 5.75 pounds, overall length is 39 inches, and barrel length is 20.5 inches from the bolt face. German Stalking rifle Jan 28 th, 2011 at 10:43am Print Post : This rifle is for sale locally. These guns have been for over a century a favorite for hunting in difficult terrain, such as in the Swiss Alps or the Carpathian mountains. Most of the scopes were mounted with the German claw mount, a very good mount when properly done. Although they were not nearly so popular as the break-open hunting guns, most companies made them. Light engraving on the receiver, bolt, and trigger guard. To celebrate the launch of the German optics brand’s scope, GMK is offering a best rifle kit Sako/Steiner package. They usually have an octagon/round barrel with a full-length integral top rib with a front bead and the standing open rear sight. Sling swivel on the barrel and stock. A short overall length and low weight are partnered with outstanding accuracy and superb build quality. for sale by Aardvark Firearms on GunsAmerica - 994736409 Amoskeag Auction Co August 2, 2014. Sold: Log in to view. The best rifle kits for stalking do not always have to leave your wallet thin. Careful inspection by a gunsmith is essential before shooting a gun like this. The action was usually fitted with a double set-trigger and a floor plate release lever that looked similar to the top lever on break-open guns. With silky soft manual cocking mechanism and Suhler tilt block lock: The tilt block is extremely short and securely locks steel on steel. The mechanism on Vierlings is quite complicated and crowded, and these guns are quite a bit heavier than the Drilling. Seller says there is no maker's mark. The Vierlings with aluminum actions are lighter in weight and but more expensive. A small adjustment screw protrudes from the front trigger and the trigger can be set as a hair trigger by pushing it forward. And hope I am just a section of assisting you to get a greater product. I for one prefer them. They are now the most desirable German side-by-side shotguns. Le projet STALKING RIFLE vient de démarrer, les professionnels de l'armurerie, le choix du boitier, du canon et des accessoires sont maintenant connus. circa 1770 . TERMS & CONDITIONS OF SALE. Makers - Darne, Merkel, Arrieta, Beretta, Browning, Holland, Purdey, Richards, Bernardelli, Parker, Fox, LC Smith, and most other double barreled shotgun, gun and double rifle makers. The German Gun Collectors Association offers the following catalog re-prints that list Garden Guns, Flobert Guns and Ammunition: A Bockbüchsflinte or over under rifle/shotgun made by Johann Springer’s Erban in Vienna. Damascus steel barrels demand extra caution. Remington 700. In addition, the hunter can carry a barrel in a small caliber like .22 long rifle, which can be inserted, into one of the shotgun barrels. This rifle is all about the one perfect shot – preferably for stalking and mountain hunting. Proofed in September of 1939, so maybe never used. You can consider the use of black powder shells, your own light load shells, available 2 ½” shells, a chamber insert or an insert barrel for use with a smaller gauge. All of the major gun makers like Sauer and Krieghoff listed at least one model in their catalog, but many a small gunsmith or dealer also made them. When one barrel is fired and heats up, it expands, creating stress and a slight bend in the barrel assembly. Single Shot Rifles; 8.15 x 46 R German Stalking Rifle; 8.15 x 46 R German Stalking Rifle. When in doubt, have it checked out by a reputable gunsmith. Early guns were built for use with black powder. What would you add or delete? bore is dark but the gun shoots great (use factory ammo only). Set triggers are common on German and Austrian hunting rifles, as has been alluded to. Play it safe! Mauser .308 M12 Impact (CERAKOTE BLACK) Bolt Action Rifle (R/H) - S/H. This barrel is often located in the elevated top rib and the gun is called Schienen Drilling. The 7 x57 Ackley Improved is the ultimate stalking rifle, in a Mauser action of course, Schnabel forend, open sights, with detachable rings, 3x10x40 Leupold, German #4 reticle… perfect… 140 grain bullet at 3000+ fps. Lengthening them for modern 2 ¾” shells can be done; however, in Europe your gun would have to go to a proof house after the chambers have been lengthened. Fancy German Jaeger . I would love to learn all I can about this rifle. (7-23-06) I have just added some more proof mark photos. rifles. The checkering is usually functional. Three-barrel shotguns gave the shooter more fire power in the days of plentiful game without bag limits. Christian Springs Rifle. German; English; Mauser; Mauser 12; Mauser 12 TRAIL; R; L; Find a Retailer. Aged only 17, he nonetheless took well to his training with the 140th Mountain Rifle Reinforcement Battalion, based in Kufstein, the second largest town of the Tyrolean region. Laws and guild regulations specified that any gun business had to be owned or managed by a master gunsmith or had to employ a master gunsmith. The stalking rifle is not a stopping rifle, nor is it a scout rifle. In both cases the let-off is very light and can be dangerous when not properly handled. On other rifles you can push the single trigger forward to set it. GunBoards.com Advertisements 10-30-2010, 12:40 PM #4. ktr. The quality of the work is what counts. Shiny Bore, Tight Action Octagonal Barrel With Ziel-Dialyt 2 3/4 x Scope With Custom Mounts, Finely Figured Walnut Stock with Checkered Pistol Grip, Engraved Receiver, Beautiful German Stalking Rifle in 22 Hornet, Double Set Trigger System. Lot 134: German Heeren Stalking Rifle By Nagel & Menz Of Baden-Baden. $1,467.00. Any “model designations or numbers” were attached by the companies who published catalogs, like AKAH, exporters like ALFA or mail order houses like Burgsmueller, Steigleder or Stukenbrok. The selector is operated by a small lever on the top tang or a slide button on the top tang that looks like a safety. German Stalking Rifle 8mm for auction. I have seen only two side-by sides up to now, both combination guns with a smooth bore in 9mm Flobert rimfire and the rifled barrel in 6mm Flobert/.22BB cap nominally. In September 1942, Hetzenaue was drafted into the German Army. I use smaller actions, light weight barrels, calibers cover a wide range but recoil must be considered. Warnant was another inventor whose action design was used on these kind of guns, and so were the  Flobert gun that are named after the inventor. Wood and metal look good. Order form located under the Double Rifle section. Why are Double Rifles and Double Rifle Drillings so much more expensive? The quality of the wood, the checkering, the engraving and the carving can vary a great deal. Regulating the older double rifles to perfection borders on art and requires a great amount of patience. The source of this goes back to the French word “Fusil” which has two meanings 1. English Stalking Rifle . 4.4K Views Last Post 11 September 2013; CBA Member RicinYakima posted this 19 October 2012 Attached are three pictures: very nice original color case harded metal except for the rust blued barrel. Single Shot Stalking Rifle: 27" round Henry-rifled barrel of fluid steel with block-mounted fine bead : front sight, 1 standing and 1 folding platinum-lined leaf sights. These were made for the trade in countless variations by a “cottage industry” centered on Zella-Mehlis, the rivaling gunmaking center only about 5 miles from Suhl. What do you all think is a fair price ? Aged only 17, he nonetheless took well to his training with the 140th Mountain Rifle Reinforcement Battalion, based in Kufstein, the second largest town of the Tyrolean region. Remington 700. Some of these guns have scope mount bases but the scope is no longer with the gun. On better guns the rear sight is automatically elevated when the rifle barrel is selected. German stalking rifle So I've always wanted a fine German stalking rifle, a really nice single shot break action. Later versions have a .323” bore and are designated 8x57S. (7-23-06) I have just added some more proof mark photos. Available for most, rimmed and rimless standard calibers, up to caliber, 9.3 x 74R. Now for the first time, available 100 % built in the USA . Their quality and their prices varied greatly, and many times the actual maker can’t be identified because many guns are marked with the dealer’s name or not at all. The German word “Drilling” means “triplet”, and “Vierling” means quadruplet. & Mahrholdt, Richard-Innsbruck, Austria. Before using one of these early guns, it would be prudent to familiarize yourself with all of its mechanical features and have it inspected, measured and cleaned by a competent gunsmith. (3G8937-212) {ANTIQUE} [Cletus Klein Collection] (4000/6000) Categories: Terms and conditions. German Stalking rifle (Read 2668 times) Zack T. Senior Forum Member Online Posts: 286 Joined: Apr 9 th, 2010. Let’s look at the Drillings first. The earliest versions had opening levers under the trigger guard and outside hammers. Whereas German guns are often heavier and bulkier than light English guns, it was the Prussian Daly Gun that was just as light, slim and well balanced. If you are looking to buy guns or sell guns, you have come to the right place. The reason for this is the fact that soft-soldered barrel ribs hold the barrels on the traditional older guns together. Single Shot Stalking Rifle: 27" round Henry-rifled barrel of fluid steel with block-mounted fine bead : front sight, 1 standing and 1 folding platinum-lined leaf sights. The Wiesbaden Rod & Gun Club and the Ramstein Rod & Gun Club, both of the American Airforce, were centers of this activity. An incredible nice handling rifle, compact and quick to take apart, this is a real gentleman's hunting rifle. The barrel is relatively heavy and has one standing leaf and one flip-up leaf. Early guns have a locking lever under the trigger guard, later models a top lever. With, half length or full length stock. Interesting break open stalking rifle. It is a light and strong break open stalking rifle, with. By most accounts, the Mauser 98 is only second to the AK-47 in production figures. German Stalking Rifle 22 Hornet Single Shot Rifle . This appears to be a guild gun of German manufacture. These, guns have been for over a century a favorite for, hunting in difficult terrain, such as in the Swiss Alps, or the Carpathian mountains. Yes, the bore. The bolt was so fast acting that German soldiers who used the rifle in WWII—having originally been trained on the turn-bolt Mauser —called the M95 the “Ruck-Zuck” (for Very Quick). 32 & Net Price List, 1937 BSW (Berlin-Suhler Waffen) Catalog & Price List, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Greif Bock-Gewehre, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Greif Drillinge, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Kipplauf, Bolt Action & Single Shot Rifles, Franz Jäger Heroldbüchse & Herold Repetierbüchse, Lancaster Arms Co., Infallible Single Trigger, Imman. In September 1942, Hetzenaue was drafted into the German Army. In Germany the word “Flinte” means a shotgun. Ammunition of the period was much less powerful than modern ammunition and the barrels were not as strong as today’s barrels. Trade Seller. This mount is very good when it is properly fitted, but it takes a competent gunsmith and quite a bit of time to do the job right. (source- The Flintlock: its origin and development  by Torsten Lenk. Although the traditional Drilling with two shotgun barrels next to each other on top and a rifle barrel underneath cradled in the middle, is by far the most popular combination gun among many other variations that are available. Trade Seller. Has two-leaf express sight, double set triggers and quick release floor plate. Sighting in requires great skill and sometimes a lot of ammunition. Barrel rebluing on multi barrel guns must be done by the rust method. The Mauser name – synonymous in the firearms world with the reputation that German engineering has secured – is one that hunters have come to rely on for a century and a quarter. Even so, I hope that this reviews about it Chiappa Rifle Review And Deer Stalking Rifle Review will end up being useful. An incredible nice handling rifle, compact and quick. EARLY 1900s GERMAN STALKING Rifle 8mm Single Shot Break Action Double Set Trigger. Barrel length between 22" and 26", as preferred by the customer. Mauser's M12 Impact bolt action rifle is the culmination of superb German engineering. It would be correct for either the 8.15x46 or the 8x48. Many of the names that can be found on these rifles are not known to us and often can’t be identified. Pre war mfg,27" octagon barrel,double set trigger,2 leaf rear sight,checkered walnut stock Inv # 820F Serial # NSN Action: Rifle pre-war style break open guns. German Mauser Sporter .270 Win caliber rifle. It is a single shot, bolt action, stalking rifle. It has… £1,325 US$1,806/€1,467. A skilled gunsmith can raise most dents and, if he can hone the bores, you will never know they were there when looking through the bores. But you must accept the liability should something go wrong. Proper regulation allows for this, but best results not only depend on the ability of the shooter, but also on shooting the second barrel within five to ten seconds off-hand, not rested on a sand bag. Octagon barrel with blade front and 2 position U-notch rear sight. European makers have different loads for the two bore diameters and the re-loader can buy bullets in both diameters. Bore is like new and shiny. Guns Firearms Fine Vintage Collectible Single shot Rifles Custom rifles for sale bought sold Livingston Montana. Deposit. We are. Double adjustable set triggers. The development of breech loading center fire guns made it possible and practical to make guns with three barrels. I figure that the rifle is pre-WWI, but can this be placed more exactly? The stock is usually very slim, has a pistol grip with a grip cap or a round knob shape and a very slim, egg-shaped cheek piece. I got to handle a 6 pound English stalking rifle that was cut for a 50 caliber roundball. Used Condition. More reliable than a semi-auto, and much faster than a bolt action, this is a great rifle platform. I like the little rifles. This gave most small businesses the capability to build these sporting rifles in their own shops. Wood and metal look good. Manchester, NH, US. From this double meaning for Fusil the Germans used the word Flint to define the smooth bore long gun or what is today’s shotgun. Gustav Kersten, a German inventor and gunsmith, who convinced the Gebrüder Merkel Company in Suhl to use his design, invented this mechanism. In 2012, Caracal has open a subsidary in the United States, Caracal USA. Some of the target rifle actions were also used for hunting rifles, and Joerg Schilling in Zella-Mehlis still builds hunting rifles on the well known Buechl action But two actions come to mind that were designed specifically for hunting rifles. Most of these guns did not achieve any collector’s status and can be of poor quality. Damascus barrels require your serious consideration. Most other calibers have to be re-manufactured by a competent person with reloading experience. So I've always wanted a fine German stalking rifle, a really nice single shot break action. A Blaser or Kreighoff being way out of my price range and the fact that I can't stand the Encore led me to the rifle I bought. A Peter Oberhammer of Munich three barrel/Drilling rifle, Larry B. Schuknecht & Dutchman Wood Works, 14.5x49R & 14.5x52R Dombrowski-Heissig Hochwildpatrone, H. Utendoerffer-RWS Catalog of Brass Cases, Die Schneckenbügel (The Snail Triggerguard), Veb Fahrzeug und Jagdwaffenwerk-Ernst Thälmann-Model 30,32 Drilling Instruction Book, Transitional Systems- Muzzle to Breech Loading, The Lefaucheux Guns and Pin Fire Ammunition, The Stutzen Rifles- Berg, Bolt, Feuer, Ischler and Pirsch, Miscellanious Advertisements for Austrian Makers, J. G. Anschutz 1937 Catalog nr. An article about Martin Hagn and Hartmann & Weiss can be found in our archive by clicking on the words above that are blue and underlined. Here we present a German Single Shot 8mm Rifle, made circa the early-1900s in Germany. For an excellent book on double rifle shooting, loads and lore, see Graeme Wright’s book Shooting the British Double Rifle, ISBN 0-949749-40-0. $1,467.00. I doubt it was intended as a target rifle. The silver Ilafon coating protects all the steel … Avoid expensive mistakes by buying a complete kit. Hammerless box lock and side lock guns that could be opened with top levers followed and are still made today. Why order a rifle from Europe? 6. $0.00 . These guns were built to order for the New York importer and gun dealer Charles Daly during a time when Suhl belonged to Prussia. A classic German Sporter, in excellent condition. This could cost over $450.00 plus the price of the scope. It was amazing what a carton of cigarettes could be traded for in those years. S/H. Very good bore. circa 1760 . quite a lot of engraving on the sides and top of the action and also on the opening lever. As steel or tinderbox and 2. applied to firearms it means both a lock that includes a steel therefore a snaphance as well as a flintlock, and furthermore, the entire weapon ( a smoothbore long gun). Not too many German single shot hunting rifles can be found because most serious hunters had owned either a Drilling, a Combination Gun or a bolt action Sporting Rifle. 14"pull from : checkered trigger to checkered steel trapdoor buttplate. And, it's among the most prolific firearms of all time. They usually have a built in set-trigger for the rifle barrel. These guns were built to order for the New York importer and gun dealer Charles Daly during a time when Suhl belonged to Prussia. Very early guns have the locking lever under the forend (Lefaucheux action). The first really practical Drillings came on the market in the second half of the 19th. By using modern high grade steel for the action it could be made slimmer and the difference in weight is minimal. in 2007. On later guns the selector can be on top of the grip or next to the triggers. The inscriptions on the top rib or the barrels might confirm that the gun was made in Germany when the name of a town in Germany follows the first name. Inter war gun with commercial German proofs (crown/B and crown/U). Very light and agile to use yet chambered in decent cartridges or chamberings. A hammer gun is not necessarily safer to carry than a hammerless gun, especially when the back action locks do not have rebounding hammers with half cock or safety notches. In About the Guns- Gun Components you can find information that will help you to better understand the mechanisms that are used in your gun. German bolt action stalking rifle. It might be advisable to have the chambers lengthened to 2 ¾” and the chokes opened up for use with modern shells that now have shot cups. No Reserve! Albums > German "Stalking" Rifle: Photos of a German "stalking" rifle in caliber 8.15x46R. Verified Member FFL. Most of the older Drillings have two 16 Ga. shotgun barrels with. They are now the most desirable … Many of these rifles were made for the old 8×57 military cartridge, also designated8x57J and have a .318” bore. Many of them are highly engraved and very attractive and come with automatic ejectors and some of them with single triggers. The ultimate take-down rifle. The trigger should only be set when you are sure that you will shoot and must be uncocked if you are not able to shoot. Most double shotguns represented here. These guns could be ordered with several action designs with side push-button like the Stevens tip-up, a push-forward under lever, or a side lever  or turning under lever. That’s what guns with three or four barrels are called in Germany and Austria where they are most popular. Made in 1931. Merkel is the only major company in Suhl that survived World War II, Russian occupation and a Communist government. But they were also made in some center fire calibers, all obsolete now, as you may see on the attached catalog sections. 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